tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9183577605666117106.post8185477740892007744..comments2023-05-17T13:22:26.321+02:00Comments on Melina's two cents: Great ExpectationsMelina Sedohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08727388535288424558noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9183577605666117106.post-73964737346844938202016-02-29T15:25:29.948+01:002016-02-29T15:25:29.948+01:00Hey Jan.
Thank you for reading my blog. You can fo...Hey Jan.<br />Thank you for reading my blog. You can follow me by clicking "join this site/blog" when you scroll down on the right side bar. Right above the list with followers.<br />But this might only work, if you have a google-account. I am not so sure there...<br />Have a nice day,<br />melinaMelina Sedohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08727388535288424558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9183577605666117106.post-72015337340152134532016-02-29T11:25:14.680+01:002016-02-29T11:25:14.680+01:00I would like to follow your blog but can not find ...I would like to follow your blog but can not find a subcribe feature please help regards jan hollander movebreatheroll4vitalityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15196830408127210517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9183577605666117106.post-59038773849371267322015-11-30T14:40:19.932+01:002015-11-30T14:40:19.932+01:00Bravo for this post!
Given the great care with wh...Bravo for this post!<br /><br />Given the great care with which most encuentros (I've been to) are prepared, I feel a bit uneasy listening to participants complaining about this or that detail that was not absolutely perfect. Often I have the impression that it seems to be somehow "uncool" to just be happy and glad with an event. I am sometimes wondering why milongueros are such a fussy hard-to-please crowd... ;-)Mihahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11868328140321350366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9183577605666117106.post-90116658596378857672015-10-31T00:36:26.035+01:002015-10-31T00:36:26.035+01:00I disagree...as long as an organizer describes the...I disagree...as long as an organizer describes the event correctly - within the usual margin of marketing poetry - the guest itself is responsible for his own decisions. All the more when guests are ready to spend 100's of € for whatnot and expect organizers to work for a song.Yokoitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13234347504168221224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9183577605666117106.post-31577144604952060012015-10-29T17:09:36.764+01:002015-10-29T17:09:36.764+01:00Dear Melina, congratulations and agreement to what...Dear Melina, congratulations and agreement to what you wrote about exaggerated expectations.<br /><br />Do you know Vio's blog on tangoforge.com? She has, to my perception, a very similiar point of view about professionalizing tango teaching and event management.<br /><br />As you pointed out, people who don't think twice to pay their airline or hotel, shoe maker etc etc start to wail about a few € for an event. If they really want to save money they can insert a fraction of their travel & accomodation budget into their local tango economy with more positive overall long-term results.<br /><br />Kind regards<br /><br />YokoitoYokoitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13234347504168221224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9183577605666117106.post-12445767800433110592015-10-29T10:35:52.112+01:002015-10-29T10:35:52.112+01:00I hope that everyone understands, that I am in the...I hope that everyone understands, that I am in the first row, when it comes to fighting for high quality of teaching or events.<br />What I am commenting on in my post are the EXAGGERATED expectations rising above anything that an organiser can do to deliver a quality event.<br /><br /><br />Melina Sedohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08727388535288424558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9183577605666117106.post-8233318811341277132015-10-29T10:28:36.141+01:002015-10-29T10:28:36.141+01:00Well, first of all my congratulations to your anni...Well, first of all my congratulations to your anniversary. In my opinion you have shared successfully a lot of passion and knowledge for the music and the dance over years – thank you. May I add a few thoughts regarding the several aspects you have mentioned? Although I am younger in tango-years I have observed a change in habbits – especially if one leaves the local community and starts to travel. Maybe it is comparable to frequent travellers one can see at every airport or in the plane. These frequent travellers prefer a higher comfort and they start to compare and select. I think in tango it is similar. People compare and select and as a direct consequence, organizers strengthen their efforts to fullfill these expectations. Up to this point, it is only an observation. We are free to deny or to accept this fact – basically it is – at least in my opinion – a nearly organic developement.<br /><br />If we agree to the fact, that tango becomes more and more professional (in a sense of leaving a only local environment), we have to think about the question, in which „currency“ a organizer gets paid. For some organizers it is money, for others it may be fame or something like that. And we have a great variety of different types among these organizers. Maybe we have to discuss the different expectations from organizers. It seems to be obvious, that a tango-professional is organizing events to earn money. Therefore this organizer will look through the glasses of a business-man on an event. Others organize for joy or fame … that's also a „valid“ motivation but the aims will differ. At this point we have to look closer on the roles of different types of organizers. Amateur organizers rely on professionals for teaching and demos. Travelling professionals need local organizers (professionals or amateurs) coordinating lessons and milongas. I think espacially in Germany we have to accept that one gets paid for his „work“ while others doing their job without any payment. That is not unfair, it is just a consequence of different professions.<br /><br />Mentioning your remarks concerning the DJs and the sound equipment in international events I would like to add an additional aspect. Surely an organizer has to keep the costs low but he or she is responsible for a lot of money. In your example the budget for an event is 75€ entrance-fee from 200 participants (i.e. 15.000 €), but the organizer takes responsibility for much more money. If we calculate conservatively 350 up to 500 € per person for travelling, accomodation and food for one weekend, the original 15.000 € grow to an amount of 70.000 to 100.000 €. Therefore it seems to be obvious, that an organizer has to provide a good sound-system and select the DJs carefully (in my opinion the knowledge, the experience and the quality of the musical material is also a topic to consider). Following these ideas it is hardly to understand, why some organizers rent really cheap and unsuitable equipment and select DJs with unsuitable music collection resp. selection. I think we could all benefit from an open discussion.<br /><br />Coming to an end, I wish you all the best for the next 20 years. Keep on rocking … :-)cassielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09358837599599618837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9183577605666117106.post-33656982440491942102015-10-28T12:45:33.386+01:002015-10-28T12:45:33.386+01:00Speaking of criticism about events: I think it'...Speaking of criticism about events: I think it's important to count the voices. If one participant tells you that a certain DJ sucks, you may smile, nod and forget. If ten people tells you the same thing independently, you have to think about not inviting this DJ again. <br /><br />The Same if ten different people are ranting about ten different aspects of the event (one doesn't like the venue, the other the lights, the third one the music ...). This is annoying but not important.<br /><br />To make it short: statistics count ;-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01171960239949962665noreply@blogger.com